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Vampires in Film and Books
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jrpbsp
Nov 29 2010, 04:51 PM
The novel or the historical basis?
Mostly the novel, but I included material about Vlad as well.
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Nov 30 2010, 03:11 AM
I actually got into Anne Rice, because Interview with a vampire was chosen as a comparasion with the novel dracula. While I enjoyed both, I prefered Anne Rice, mainly because I enjoyed the historical takes and elements on the vampire's history. That said, her later novels were overall religious, so fair comment to jrpbsp.
SOrry, sniktsnakt never could stand buffy.
Part of my thesis discussed how during their initial appearances Lestat and Dracula were villians, and then over the years they both evolved into anti-heroes.
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Well part of the evolution was people's fascination with vampires as characters. There was such a dark obsession there that they started being not 'all bad'. Which eventually led into the comedy of Buffy (which I didn't get into either but the movie was vaguely amusing) or horror that is Twilight.

The whole Goth movement started with vampires and anything that people love enough becomes at least somewhat good. It all becomes so romanticized that is becomes a cliche or a mockery of itself. Why I still like Dracula best. It's pure.

I do think plenty of the movies and I have read some vampire books that were cheesy fun. But for my money you have to stick with the original source for things.
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Tried to read Rice's vampire stuff several times, but could not get further than 3 chapters into "Interview With a Vampire." I found her fantasy writing boring, and it just never hooked me. I have liked a couple of her early, non-vamp novels ("Feast of All Saints," and "Cry to Heaven"). Now, Bram Stoker's novel, "Dracula," is a different matter! Wonderful work!

If anyone is interested in a truly great vampire novel set in 1850s New Orleans - forget Rice. Read "Fevre Dream" by the great science fiction author, George R. R. Martin. Fantastic (and accurate) descriptions of the time and place, and a truly horrific vampire tale, as well.
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Nov 30 2010, 12:04 PM
If anyone is interested in a truly great vampire novel set in 1850s New Orleans - forget Rice. Read "Fevre Dream" by the great science fiction author, George R. R. Martin. Fantastic (and accurate) descriptions of the time and place, and a truly horrific vampire tale, as well.
I will have to look into that one.

I love George R. R. Martin. I am reading his "Song of Fire & Ice" series right now and it is amazing.
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I haven't been able to get into GRR Martin. Mostly because his stuff is more political then action. I tend to like a good fast paced story. Plus he kills off the more likeable characters far too often.
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Templedog, if you locate a copy, I don't think you'll be sorry. The title, "Fevre Dream," is the name of a fabulous steamboat, and a reference to the delirium one suffers while in the grip of yellow fever. The protagonist is a riverboat captain looking for a rich backer to help finance the fastest, most lavish steamboat on the Mississippi. The wealthy backer interested in his project can only meet with him during the evening......
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