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| Topic Started: Jun 28 2010, 04:58 AM (2,047 Views) | |
| Templedog | Jun 28 2010, 04:58 AM Post #1 |
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I am already a fan of Cyberpunk and Steampunk fiction, but has anyone ever heard of Dieselpunk (Teslapunk) or Atompunk? Here is what I found on wiki. Dieselpunk (Teslapunk) Dieselpunk is based on the aesthetics of the interbellum pulp fiction period through World War II (c. 1920-1945). The genre combines pop surrealist art with postmodern technology and sensibilities. First coined in 2001 as a marketing term by game designer Lewis Pollak to describe his role-playing game Children of the Sun,[14] dieselpunk has grown to describe a distinct style of visual art, music, motion pictures, fiction, and engineering.[15] Atompunk Atompunk relates to the pre-digital period of 1945-1965, including mid-century Modernism, the Atomic Age and Space Age, Communism and concern about it exagerrated as paranoia in the USA along with Neo-Soviet styling, underground cinema, Googie architecture, the Sputnik programme, superhero fiction, the rise of the US military/industrial powers and the fall-out of Chernobyl. Can anyone who knows these terms provide me with a list of books and fiction in these genres? I have search the web and haven't really found any lists of fiction that represent the genres. |
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| LoganActor | Jun 28 2010, 07:06 AM Post #2 |
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I've heard of Dieselpunk, and I get the concept of atompunk, but haven't read anything in either of those genre's. Dieselpunk (visually, anyway) seems to be a lot grittier and more down to earth than Steampunk. It's all about the grease and grime of a mechanic's shop, with the sleek lines of cars/planes in the 30's and 40's with the big oversized front grills and lots of chrome trim. Things that make me think of the dieselpunk world are films like The Rocketeer (though it's just this side of the Steampunk/Dieselpunk divide), Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Iron Giant, games like Crimson Skies, and even Batman: The Animated Series in some places. When he's being playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne and hanging out at parties and benefits, Gotham (especially when it comes to the cars and architecture) seems very late 30's early 40's to me. Disney's Atlantis: The Lost Empire is very Jules Verne when they're on the sub, but underground it gets awfully gritty and grimy down underground. Hell, Firefly/Serenity is pretty much Old West Dieselpunk. Anything featuring a young, usually female mechanic can probably be partially classified in this genre. Really anything with evil fascist villians who possess advanced technology. Huge fleets of airplanes. Anything with dirigibles. Bomber nose-art. Pin-ups. Stuff like that. I'll put out some feelers for good reads. Edited by LoganActor, Jun 28 2010, 09:59 AM.
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| Templedog | Jun 28 2010, 09:56 AM Post #3 |
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You have the pretty much the same understanding of Dieselpunk that I do. It is has kind a pulp/noir/sci-fi feel to it. Atompunk and or Transistorpunk I think is that 50s/early 60s Sci-fi kind of feel, and was kind of like the comics of the day. I think alot of the Jetsons and DC comics New Frontiers series when I think of it. All shiny, silver, metal and rocket ships. Even though the Iron Giant is Dieselpunk the era is Atompunk. Here is a list the best breakdown of the "punks" that I have found from http://diewachen.com/2007/08/all-sorts-of-punk.html Timepunk has a variety of categories, each title based on the time period or major technology which provides the theme for the tale: Stonepunk. This term, coined by the GURPS roleplaying game Steampunk, denotes a Stone Age civilization provided with technological advances. Edgar Rice Borroughs' The Land that Time Forgot (download a copy here) and Jean Auel's Clan of the Cave Bear are early examples of this style of story. Bronzepunk. This term, coined by the GURPS roleplaying game Steampunk, denotes a Bronze Age civilization provided with steam-based technological advances. The novels of Mary Renault are often good examples of this type of timepunk. Sandalpunk. This term, coined by the GURPS roleplaying game Steampunk, denotes an ancient civilization, often the Romans or some other Iron Age civilization, never collapses—with scientific advancement (based on such technologies as the Antikythera mechanism) continuint at a rate relative to later modern civilizations. Sandalpunk has also been called “Classicpunk” or “Ironpunk.” Candlepunk. Denotes an late medieval civilization with futuristic technology. Candlepunk has also been called “Castlepunk”and “Middlepunk.” It can also be “Dungeonpunk” when adding magical elements, or “Plaguepunk” when describing a plague-ridden candlepunk society. Connie Willis' Doomsday Book is an example of this type of timepunk. Clockpunk. This term, coined by the GURPS roleplaying game Steampunk, denotes a Renaissance era civilization with clockwork-based technology and Da Vinci inspired advances. Terry Pratchett's Discworld series and Pasquale's Angel by Paul J. McAuley are examples of this type of timepunk. Steampunk. A Victorian, English Regency, Industrial Revolution, or Edwardian English setting is provided with a variety of steam-based technology and Victorian advances such as difference engines. Inspired by actual Victorian science fiction (Edisonades, Scientific Romances, and Voyages Extraordinaires), Steampunk was the first of the timepunk categories, and has inspired real-world anachrono-futuristic culture, technology, games, fashion, and art. Steampunk has also been called “Victorian Steampunk” and “Gaslamp Fantasy.” William Gibson & Bruce Sterling's The Difference Engine (read a historical supplement here) and Alan Moore's The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are modern examples of this type of timepunk. “Western Steampunk” places the story in the same time periods, but set in America’s Old West. These stories have also been referred to as “Weird West” fiction and “Cattlepunk.” They may also be called “Desertpunk” when referring to a post-apocalyptic Western Steampunk, where water is mostly absent from the world (although this style of Timepunk can also be achieved in a Dieselpunk setting). Dieselpunk. This term, coined by game designers Lewis Pollak and Dan Ross for the roleplaying game Children of the Sun, denotes an Industrial Age civilization with futuristic petroleum-based technology. Dieselpunk has also been called “Teslapunk” when describing futuristic electrical technology in an Industrial Age civilization. Atomicpunk. An Atomic Age civilization where the Great Depression never occurred, and World War II remained a prolonged cold war. “Nazipunk” places the story in the same time periods, but one where the Nazi's continue existing after World War II has come to an end. Nazipunk has also been called “Blitzpunk.” Examples of this type of timepunk include The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick and Fatherland by Robert Harris. Transistorpunk. Denotes an exaggerated and glamorized Cold War era society. The ideals and fads of the 1960s prevail, while a countercultural movement moves forward governmental advancement. Transistorpunk has also been called “Psychedelipunk” or “Weedpunk” when describing the psychedelic drug-ridden elements of the society or hemp-based technologies. Spacepunk. In Spacepunk, the tools of the punk genre are combined with the themes of a Swords and Space tale. Here, a seemingly older civilization with advanced Space Age technology. These stories have also been referred to simply as “Sword and Space” fantasy when dealing with an ancient civilization with advanced technology or “Retrofuturism” when the society is a modern society with advanced technology. Edited by Templedog, Jun 28 2010, 10:05 AM.
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| LoganActor | Jun 28 2010, 11:34 AM Post #4 |
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Ooooh. Good info there. |
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