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| Topic Started: Jan 13 2010, 07:04 PM (2,036 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Jan 13 2010, 07:04 PM Post #1 |
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Ever since Romulus told Wolverine in ORIGINS #40, that "I'm the top of the food chain" something has been gnawing at me. Too many things about that issue did not make any sense. Like they didn't make sense on purpose. And I think it has something to do with that statement. First and foremost was how unbelievable easily Wolverine defeated the monster... and he did defeat him. He fought Sabretooth for nearly a century. He was scared to death of Cyber. Omega Red handed him his ass more than once. And he defeats Romulus in 12 pages. He needed only to push his claws foreward and the story would have been over. I wonder if Logan suspected something. That everything about Romulus is a lie, as he said. We're led to believe that Wolverine is too concerned about Daken's motives to destroy Romulus outright. Logan let Daken go. Daken could be isolated in a Neutralization Cell right now. Daken could be under the care of the X-Men, but he let him go. Why? If he's so dangerous, why turn him loose? What did Logan know, that the reader doesn't? What does he care about Romulus' empire? Kill Romulus and let Doctor Doom deal with another would-be world dominator. Let Magneto deal with him. Let Apocalypse deal with him. Who cares? If he hadn't let Daken go, then none of Romulus' threats toward his son would matter, would they? I don't understand how you can live since prehistoric times, yet not be immortal. As the story progresses, Romulus is shown to be less and less competent. Kidnapping? Extorsion? Crime families. Pretty petty stuff, I think. Not too bright for some guy that's supposed to be, like 20,000 years old. It's not about Daken. It's about the empire of Romulus. Because the Empire is Romulus. "I am what you will become." He's not some grand manipulator, he just another "Prince" who inherits the throne but ain't up for the job, and blows everything. Because along comes Wolverine, who's the best there is at what he does. Better than this old fart, as Logan was surprised to learn when he comes face to face with Romulus. Romulus is not his name... it's his title. Or not. Your thoughts? |
 
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| indestructable | Jan 14 2010, 01:19 AM Post #2 |
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I can see that. The guy we see in Evolution arc is not the current Romulus but one in a long line. Also I can't shake the feeling the final reveal is going to be Romulus is real Logan from the future sent to the past or some lame stuff like that. |
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| Cat | Jan 14 2010, 02:56 AM Post #3 |
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That would more sense than the idea of an Immortal. Unfortunately, chance of Marvel making sense? zero. 
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| jrpbsp | Jan 14 2010, 12:15 PM Post #4 |
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Well I would more say that Way doesn't make that much sense rather then Marvel. It did occur to me that since he is passing the job off that it was kind of like the Dread Pirate Roberts, ie a bunch of people that do the same job and then retire in wealth and pass it on. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2010, 06:06 PM Post #5 |
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The idea of "Romulus is Logan from the future" is a pretty widespread one... but that almost seems too easy. That will be a let down if it's true. And CAT, you're spot on with Marvel making sense. Have you read Spider-Man lately? Poor guy. I feel sorry for him. Wait, no I don't. I'm almost beginning to suspect that ACE could be on to something. That Romulus is really Logan's long lost brother, John. An answer to the "Romulus and Remus" angle of all of this. I argued that point against him earlier as I just couldn't swallow the idea of Romulus owning a casino. Now... not so much. If Romulus owns the casino, then Wolverine is his Rainman. "What are you doing in Vegas, Logan?" "Countin' cards, Biatch." Remember that Logan first met Romulus in Japan... and he wasn't impressed. I don't understand the Daken point of all of this yet, apart from using his Muramasa claws to finish off Romulus. But again, it seems too obvious. Like I said, he let Daken go free. Like Logan believes that his brat kid is really not that big a player in this whole scheme, despite what he thinks. Like he doesn't care what the kid is doing because he's not important in any of this. And he's right. Daken ain't important. At all. And Winter Soldier still has two Carbonadium bullets left. |
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| Templedog | Jan 16 2010, 02:10 PM Post #6 |
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That is because it has all been done with the Hulk and Maestro. |
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| jrpbsp | Jan 19 2010, 11:25 AM Post #7 |
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Well the back from the future bit is a lot older then that. Remember Rachel Summers is from an alternate future. |
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| indestructable | Jan 28 2010, 10:23 AM Post #8 |
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Just finished rereading Origin, The End, Origins and Endings, and Wolverine Origins. Way's WO is a shameful mess. There are concepts that were set up in Wolverine the end that were clearly used here and used badly. The book does not have internal consistency and in many cases is just silly. Reading it the first time I in a disjointed manner I thought some concepts were good with bad execution but on the second round straight through this is a bad story that is full of nothing but padding to make it to 50. The good concept came from The End, Logan and John are fighting and John digs at Logan stating that he has been a bad father and that after he kills Logan he will approach his son with "latent mutant abilities like ours" and perhaps he will think of John as his father. That is the origin of Way's convoluted BS. I can't help thinking, what would WO have been if Paul Jenkins had written it. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 28 2010, 06:45 PM Post #9 |
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Alot of Marvel writers turned down the offer before it was finally offered to Way, so he wasn't the first choice. Many feel that it should have been given to Chris Claremont, but I don't know if it ever was. If so, I'd like to know his reason for declining, and if not, I'd like to know Marvel's reason for refusing to consider him. I just hope Romulus' desire for immortality ends after WO is finished. I don't want to spend the next twenty years dealing with "Romulus flashbacks" with every writer who picks up after Way. |
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| indestructable | Jan 29 2010, 12:22 AM Post #10 |
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Most of this stuff is going to be retconed because it does not make sense. An example is the Professor (Truet Hudson or Andre Thornton). Frank Teri's Weapon-X 23 shows Thornton during WWII finding Sinister's journal at a liberated concentration camp and in Weapon-X First Class Sinister hires a young Gambit to steal the journal back. Way's version directly contradicts those events. Essentially Truet Hudson is the grandson of Fredrick Hudson, the guy who ran the camp Logan trained at under Cyber in I think 1912. Daken Killed this guy while he was being trained there and burned the place to the ground. Fred's secretary Caitlyn Macdonald gave birth to Fred II and Fred II sired Truet, victor, and James Hudson. So it just does not make sense. |
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