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| Ace | Sep 14 2009, 01:55 PM Post #111 |
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I'm not sure if his mind would be what shut it out, it may have been mental conditioning. Either works. But within the context of the theory I think he remembers it deep down. He may not remember who Romulus really is, or how they're connected, but he knows the fear. Dog was a survivor. He took his beatings and they just made him even more fearless. That seemed to be the nature of the character. He gets hurt and responds to it with this tough exterior that nothing could break. But again, those were minor things in the grand scheme of physical and mental trauma. In this scenario, Romulus broke him. Dog had never been close to death, he'd never really experienced anything that a normal person couldn't cope with. The reason I think this trauma stuck with him is because he'd never been hurt like that before, and he would never be hurt like that again as of getting his healing factor. This utter fear of death would have been a virgin instance, a new experience and because of that one he'd remember deep down forever. Like the childhood nightmare a person has that sticks with them for the rest of their lives deep down. It's different when you're a guy like, I don't know... Cyclops. He's close to death all the time. He has no healing factor to fall back on. It's a normal occurrence and he has adapted to that feeling. But for a guy like Sabretooth? He doesn't need to fear death because he would believe himself immune to it. Which is why the one and only experience he would have with that would be so traumatic. The only time he's ever had to fear for his life in his entire history. That fear would stick with you. And the alternative doesn't really work because there is no alternative. The only thing Sabretooth has to fear is his demise. He'd strong, can heal from any wound, and is virtually immortal. He'd have no reason to be afraid of Romulus otherwise. Because for all intents and purposes, he could probably beat Romulus in a physical fight given the right scenario. Edited by Ace, Sep 14 2009, 01:57 PM.
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| jrpbsp | Sep 14 2009, 02:05 PM Post #112 |
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Keep in mind though that Romulus is supposed to be a thinker and not just a brute. As an expert geneticist (go figure) there are plenty of things he could do to Sabretooth that go beyond psychical. We already know he had to power to pretty much destroy Creed's mind/personality/thoughts and that can be a lot scarier then just getting tortured. Losing who you are, becoming nothing at all. That could easily be what Sabretooth was scared of. And keep in mind if you are assuming Dog was Creed then that kid had no idea he could heal. Living with his abusive father he faced the possibility of death constantly. You can never tell when a big, mean drunk is going to go one step too far and kill you. |
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| Ace | Sep 14 2009, 02:13 PM Post #113 |
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Not consciously. But your body knows these things even when you don't. Which is why so many sick people know they're about to die for certain right before they actually do.
That's not really possible in either the context that Dog is Sabretooth, or the context that John III is Romulus. Why? Because of what FA and I were discussing in this topic earlier. The timeline that follows John getting out of the asylum, being experimented on byWeapon Plus, and then escaping to do everything he has done puts his escape in the early 1900s. So there's a variety of reasons it won't work. The technology wasn't there for advanced genetics research, John wouldn't have learned it yet or had the funds necessary, and if Dog is Sabretooth he would have had to do this genetic torture to him while he was Dog but before he became Sabretooth in time to meet Logan in Japan for the first time. The bottom line being that he just barely has enough time to escape, come into contact with Dog/Sabretooth, and so on before having to meet Logan for the first time. |
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| jrpbsp | Sep 14 2009, 02:20 PM Post #114 |
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I beg to differ. Sinister was doing advance research by then and if Dog was a mutant in an asylum I would not be the least bit surprised to learn that Essex came to pay him a visit. Not much of a stretch to consider that those two ended up working together especially with the Sabretooth connection already there. |
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| Ace | Sep 14 2009, 02:24 PM Post #115 |
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I don't doubt that the two have met. Especially seeing as Romulus knew of Essex as far back as when Wolverine was first abducted by Weapon X. But I doubt it would be at that particular asylum in the middle of Canada in the late 1800s/1900s. EDIT: And as for the genetics research, I don't recall properly, but in Sinister's case wasn't it all just theory at that point? The equipment necessary for specific genetic research and alteration didn't exist yet. Edited by Ace, Sep 14 2009, 02:26 PM.
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| Ace | Sep 14 2009, 02:30 PM Post #116 |
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It's possible that Sinister and Romulus could have met post-asylum pre-Weapon Plus escape. As Sinister has at least two known connections to the Weapon Plus project. |
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| jrpbsp | Sep 14 2009, 02:30 PM Post #117 |
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Keep in mind I am not advocating at all that Romulus made Sabretooth scared of him in the early 1900s nor do i particularly believe they even met back then. I am more concerned with decades later. And nope, Sinister was experimenting on all sorts of people and things by then not the least of which was himself. Keep in mind he had access to Celestrial tech by way of Poccy-lips. |
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| Ace | Sep 14 2009, 02:37 PM Post #118 |
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Ah yes, Celestial tech, that makes sense then.
That part isn't actually speculation. Romulus, Sabretooth, and Logan all met for the first time in Japan in the early 1900s, as shown by the Evolution arc. And it looked as if Romulus has sought out both Logan and Creed to make that encounter possible. |
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| jrpbsp | Sep 14 2009, 03:32 PM Post #119 |
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Must be something I blocked out then since I don't remember it at all. At least not to a date or anything. Vague remembering of some sort of behind the scenes meeting is about it. |
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