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| Topic Started: Jul 22 2009, 10:52 PM (986 Views) | |
| Ace | Jul 22 2009, 10:52 PM Post #1 |
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So what did everyone think? Not very much happened, but I admired Wolverine's ingenuity in the face of adversity, even if he'd flubbed to begin with. Spoiler: click to toggle
Edited by Ace, Jul 22 2009, 10:56 PM.
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| jrpbsp | Jul 23 2009, 09:52 AM Post #2 |
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I'll be reviewing it in a couple of days. It was ok but nothing great. Decent fight issue but I had a few complaints mostly on how quickly Wolverine was exhausted (first appearance even after a car wreck and a beating he went toe to toe with Red for sixteen hours. Here it's a few minutes?) Also it was confused to me. While I understand the impact of a big reveal at the end I literally did not know what was happening through a good portion of the book and that is bad. But the fight scenes were well done and interesting and it was pretty in character in general. I definitely liked seeing Wolverine using his head in the fight rather then just his claws. |
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| KillerBob | Jul 23 2009, 12:32 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah, had a big problem with how quickly Wolverine was run down. Even back in Jim Lee's run when Wolverine's healing factor was barely functional he threw down for far longer, and I believe he was drugged to boot. Maybe it was the fact that the C-Synth was present. For example: when Wolverine's Healing Factor was puttering out for a while and he was basically dead on his feet he started to notice that his hyper senses became dulled along with a loss of enhaced speed/reflexes. Perhaps because the C-Synth was present and stabilizing his overall health he experienced an amplification in the effectiveness of his death spores. Only thing I can think up and even that's a flimsy theory. You also have to remember that Way retconned Carbonadium into being draining to Wolverine's Healing Factor. As for the fight itself... meh. Way stated in an interview it would be mega bloody and violent. We've seen far bloodier fights and it doesn't come even close to the awesome Wolverine/Red fight that Mike Choi did in Uncanny # 499 not too long ago. Of course the next issue's cover does seem to indicate that Red will be back for a round 2, so here's to hoping. Hopefully next issue we can find out how and when the hell Wildchild became powerful enough to take out the likes of Sabretooth, Wolverine, and Sasquatch. Or perhaps WC will just get creamed as he should by Logan and we will forget those embarassing Loeb issues completely. |
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| jrpbsp | Jul 23 2009, 01:46 PM Post #4 |
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Well the C-Synth can produce Carbonadium but it does not do it constantly or by default. It would have to be running in order to make the stuff (and have the appropriate materials.) Wolverine carried it around for a long time before he hid it and never showed it affecting his healing factor. The lack of senses was supposed to be Omega Red draining him but yeah it should have taken a lot more. |
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| jasonlouis2217 | Jul 24 2009, 03:44 AM Post #5 |
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Who was the guy standing over Wolvie at the end? Romulus????? |
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| jrpbsp | Jul 24 2009, 09:33 AM Post #6 |
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That was Wild Child (Kyle Gibney). He used to be part of the Alpha Flight junior team and then X-Factor. He then moved into Weapon X. Basically a smaller weaker Sabretooth. He has been shown to be Romulus' right hand man. |
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| KillerBob | Jul 24 2009, 11:26 AM Post #7 |
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None of this is going to make sense since Way changed the nature of Red's powers, but anyway... If I remember correctly Red originally wanted the C-Synth not because the Carbonadium was killing him, but because the metal was the only thing that could stabilize his Death Factor, which was killing him slowly. His transformation process was not complete when Team X stole the C-Synth, thus the process that was supposed to cure him was interupted. As for the C-Synth being on or off - we really know nothing about the device. Perhaps just being that close to the activated device (if it was) was enacting some change in his Carbonadium, like if the device emits some kind of field or some such nonsense. I know the device has no effect on Wolverine's Healing Factor, and I did not mean that Red was draining his senses. I was talking about when Wolverine's Healing Factor shorted out after he was tortured by the Reavers. During those few years Wolverine admitted that his other powers like his senses had become weaker. He admitted a similar thing about his secondary powers after Magneto ripped out his skeleton. My point is that perhaps Red's secondary powers (Life Drain) were weaker for decades because he was slowly dying and now that the C-Synth is near him (maybe emitting some stabilizing effect on his Carbonadium) he is in better health and his powers are operating at their true rate. |
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| jrpbsp | Jul 24 2009, 11:55 AM Post #8 |
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Well anything is possible as far as the C-Synth is concerned since we have never actually seen it work. You are correct that it is supposed to control his Death Spore/factor power, presumably inhibiting it a bit like it does with Wolverine's Healing Factor. Enough at least to keep it from feeding on Omega Red himself. That being said I would expect his powers to actually be weaker now but more in control. All of Wolverine's powers (senses and such) are reduced when his Healing Factor is inhibited but I don't really see Omega Red having the power to really inhibit that. He can eventually drain enough life energy from Wolverine to take him down but it is a long slow process. While he also can heal better when he feeds off someone I don't see how the prison really helps him that much either, not enough to tip the tables like that. His Spores are limited range so he could not feed on the whole prison at once while he was there. Essentially the whole thing was not very logical and did not really fit with the other depictions of Red we have seen but then that is not unusual for the series. |
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| KillerBob | Jul 24 2009, 10:05 PM Post #9 |
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His spores may have limited range, but I dont think that the range of his life draining abilities has ever been stated, and it's not really related to the spores as far as I know. The story has flaws, but I can deal as long as it leads to Red being depicted in future stories as the true monster he was created to be. Chamber my ass. |
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| jrpbsp | Jul 24 2009, 10:23 PM Post #10 |
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Yeah it's his spores that drain the life I believe. Always been my take on it anyway. He is a mutant and that is his power. It's possible the ability to drain people is a separate part of that but I thought it was the same thing. Weakens and kills others while giving him energy back. |
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