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| Ominous Wolverine Teaser Released; The End | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 23 2009, 08:15 PM (596 Views) | |
| Congo Jack | Jun 23 2009, 08:15 PM Post #1 |
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IGN > Ominous Wolverine Teaser Released Exclusively debuting on IGN, the Wolverine piece by Gabriele Dell'Otto only says "The End". |
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| Ace | Jun 23 2009, 08:45 PM Post #2 |
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If they kill off Wolverine, even for a while, I will be impressed. Upset, but impressed. It takes a tremendous amount of guts to kill off one of, if not their most popular character. The character that financially carries just about every book he appears in. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 24 2009, 03:01 AM Post #3 |
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I think we will. I think we'll see different versions of "The End" trailers like this. Just like we saw the Captain America bowing to Norman Osborn several times, yet that has yet to happen in the comics. |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 24 2009, 09:32 AM Post #4 |
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Killing Wolverine would be like killing Spider-Man you don't do it and expect to stay on top of the business. I know people are going to say DC killed both Superman and Batman but they are now in deeply second place. Killing Cap is one thing, he was only carrying one book. Wolverine has a bunch of them including two solos in the present. Of course he'd be back anyway, everyone knows this. And it would be impressive if they pulled it off. But yeah I don't see it happening. That said yeah I expect this is for the end of Dark Reign. That has been going on since Jan by the time the List rolls around in the Fall it's nearly a full year. I doubt it's going to go for much longer then that. Edited by jrpbsp, Jun 24 2009, 09:33 AM.
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| Ace | Jun 24 2009, 04:05 PM Post #5 |
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I agree with most of that. You don't do it, or rather, logic says you shouldn't. There's a reason when Spider-Man died it only lasted one issue before he was resurrected. Spidey and Wolvie are the driving forces of Marvel comics, I think we can safely say that much.
DC did do it with both Superman and Batman, but it's true that Marvel doesn't really have anything like that for Wolvie. If they temporarily killed him off (all such deaths are temporary), there isn't a Dick Grayson to fill his shoes. He's just gone. One could make an argument for, say, Daken, but lets face it, in the event that that happened there would be more backlash than every poor editorial move combined. So ultimately the DC kill-offs aren't comparable in this instance. You won't find me making that argument, at the very least.
Nonetheless, if they did do it, which I agree is highly highly unlikely... I'd be very impressed with their initiative. To turn down guaranteed Wolvie appearance sales and take a chance like that, well, that would show a level of courage most companies simply do not have. Comic or otherwise. It would be without a doubt the most ballsy move in comic history. However, there is a precedent here. There's a lot of reasons not do kill off Wolverine temporarily, but there are also a few for it. Lets face it, we Wolvie fans, we love him, but there's a whole slew of people out there that either hate him outright, and/or feel he's overexposed in too many stories and too many books. Even we diehards feel that way from time to time. I love Wolverine as much as the next guy, but he makes an appearance in every new series, every limited series, and so on. All for the purposes of selling that issue and series to people who are only interested in collecting the next Wolverine guest app. The precedent I spoke of above is the idea that people want what they can't have. If you took Wolverine out of every X-book for a year, yes, sales would probably slip a bit. But when he came back after that period of time? People wouldn't be able to get enough. There would be no more "Wolverine is overexposed!", only "Yes! Wolverine is back! I can't wait to see him in everything!" The benchmark for this practice is Thor. Thor as a character was considered a dead concept. People weren't buying his books, they were tired of his olde English mannerisms and so on. The Thor brand in general was just gradually going down. Which was especially jarring considering he was one of the big three Avengers (Cap, Iron Man, and Thor). So what did Marvel do? They canceled his book, they temporarily killed off the character, and everything relating to Thor took a backseat. After just a few months people were clamoring for a Thor book. Suddenly a concept that had become quite stale was demanded in every single interview. "When is Thor coming back!?", the people would chant. And upon his return a few short years later, his book became one of the most popular and well-received in the industry, where only a few years prior it was hemorrhaging readers. So, there is a logic behind it, and it might even work, but I don't ever expect Marvel to take that chance with Wolverine, even if the longterm benefits might be in their favor. Of course that's not to say it would work the same way, but it could, in theory. Edited by Ace, Jun 24 2009, 04:07 PM.
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| jrpbsp | Jun 24 2009, 04:23 PM Post #6 |
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I'd only see it happening if he stopped selling the books. Look at the attention Cap got. Yes his book was loved by the readers and very acclaimed but it was low on the pole in terms of readers. But kill him off and suddenly he's hugely exposed even in popular media. Then bring him back in time for his movie. It's good marketing. But Wolverine does sell comics. His movie did very well especially overseas for a comic book movie. He's got a sequel and a spin off in the works. If anything he's at the top of the game right now. Which could be a reason to kill him but bring him back a few issues later. Could even be why they are doing it in Forever, to test the waters. But I still agree it's extremely unlikely. At least for now, yeah I would expect he's safe as long as the movies are raking it in. As for what the End means? That's a tough one. He's certainly injured on the image but he looks more mad and hurt. I'm wondering if it is the end for someone he cares about. Could be the next story arc in Origins after Romulus maybe? Revenge against Wolverine and his loved ones? |
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| Ace | Jun 24 2009, 04:27 PM Post #7 |
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That's assuming there even is another arc after the Romulus one. I don't think they've revealed any solicits beyond that story. The solicits also seem to suggest that "it all comes down to this" in regards to the Romulus story, which leads me to believe it may be the climax of the book. And not long ago Daniel Way said he's only doing 40 or 45 issues of the series, as was planned from the beginning. I'm wondering if they're pulling an Iron Man. Iron Man: Director of SHIELD was running, and then Invincible Iron Man launched alongside it for a few months. And then not long after Director of SHIELD was ended. I can't help but wonder if that was the impetus for introducing Wolverine: Weapon X, in anticipation of needing to fill the gap of the second Wolvie book. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 24 2009, 07:08 PM Post #8 |
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It would interrupt a lot of stories and screw up a lot of ongoings. Mainly Wolverine Origins. I do not thing this is really a "death of Wolverine". I just find it very unlikely. |
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| Ace | Jun 24 2009, 07:14 PM Post #9 |
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Well if Origins was ending (which is very well may be, as stated above), that would no longer be a factor in that scenario. But again, I don't think it's likely at all. I love Marvel, I really do, but I doubt they have the stones for such a move. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 24 2009, 07:24 PM Post #10 |
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It's not just that. I believe Jason Aaron mapped out more then one story arc. From the way he talked in several interviews, it sounded like he had a years worth of stories in the works. |
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