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| Gorvar | Jun 23 2009, 02:24 PM Post #11 |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 23 2009, 03:47 PM Post #12 |
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Not everyone feels that way. Watch enough anime or read enough Stephen King novels and you find yourself to be a little more open minded. Plus that is a lot of information thrown at you at once. It is incorporated into the story a lot better. |
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| Ace | Jun 23 2009, 03:53 PM Post #13 |
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The nature of the Weapon Plus program is pretty simple. Each project represents a different level on living weapon totem pole. Reexamining the idea of living weapons from a new perspective. For the ultimate goal of the eradication of mutantkind. Weapon I experimented on humans and was intended to bring them to peak human endurance, strength, etc. This particular project was active in the 40s and was responsible for the creation of Captain America. Weapons II - IV experimented on animals, though little to nothing is known about this particular project. Weapons V and VI experimented on ethnic minorities in some way, though this has yet to be elaborated on. That was way back when during the 40s and 50s when there were a lot of misconceptions about racial genetics. Weapon VII experimented on soldiers in and around the time of Vietnam. This particular project was the first to use implants, brain washing, and chemicals to control the subjects. This lead to the creation of Nuke. Which was presumably an attempt to create a more controlled next-generation Captain America. Weapon VIII is unknown, to my knowledge. The wiki article says that it was Weapon Alpha/Guardian and used super suits to augment human abilities. I've followed the continuing developments of the Weapon Plus program for quite some time and this is the first I've heard of it. I cannot say with absolute certainty that it's true or false. Weapon IX in the alternate future of Wolverine: The End was stated to be John Howlett. If Romulus is indeed John Howlett as I theorize, this would likely be the case in the 616 continuity as well. Though that's not set in stone, of course. Outside of that very little is known. Weapon X speaks for itself. It's Wolverine, and so, so many other side projects. This was the project that started using the idea of using mutants to hunt mutants. And Weapon XI hasn't been officially confirmed yet outside of it being the title of a recent Daken arc, and the codename for Deadpool in the X-Men Origins: Wolverine film. Weapon XIII through XV are essentially one big project. Each Weapon was a unique project and individual who was going to be be part of John Sublimes super-sentinel team. Each of them being augmented with sentinel tech, and having a unique purpose and ability. The idea being that they'd make the genocide of mutants mainstream and portray the Super-sentinels as the good guys, and mutantkind as the baddies. And Weapon XVI (16) will be revealed in The List. It's really not all that complicated. The projects supposedly started in the 30s or 40s and they've been making new developments ever since. Each being from a different angle. "Well, human trials worked. Now lets see if we can apply some of that to mutants. And since that worked, lets augment them with robotics and gene splicing". Etc etc. |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 23 2009, 04:02 PM Post #14 |
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Never mind, you aren't seeing the absurdity of the situation and I don't see how it can be properly explained. It's not that I don't understand the program or haven't read enough Stephen King (for the record I think I own every book except four or five). It's simply that someone riding around in a spaceship he threw up and consisting of his own nervous system is ridiculous to the point of fall down laughing. |
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| Ace | Jun 23 2009, 04:08 PM Post #15 |
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The latter projects are intended to be absurd. That's the point. It's about escalation. Jason Aaron stated in the interview I linked to at the beginning of this topic that he intends Weapon 16 to be the most absurd of the bunch. That's the point. It starts out with using a concoction of steroids on a human being, then they see that maybe they can attempt something similar on animals. From there they think lets insert adamantium into a man's body and see if we can't improve them via devices and materials rather than chemicals. Then it's cloning, genetic alteration, external nervous systems, and so on. They already know how to create cyborgs, clones, and human/animal hybrids, they know what about those work and don't work. So the science becomes more radical, more absurd, further out there. It escalates until they're attempting to do things that no one has ever attempted before. That's the nature of the program. It's not a detriment, it's the mandate. |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 23 2009, 04:13 PM Post #16 |
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You can explain it that way, but to me it makes the whole thing into a giant farce. Considering his admitted drug use and you just have to assume it's just a bad trip. I don't understand how it can be taking seriously but it's not played up enough to actually be a joke like Deadpool. Of course I admit to not getting any of his work and I have tried so maybe it's just not to me taste and that's all there is to it. |
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| Ace | Jun 23 2009, 04:25 PM Post #17 |
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I think we're both bias in this regard. You hate Morrison with a blinding passion, and I, on the other hand adore the idea of Weapon Plus with no small amount of devotion (the writer not withstanding). It is, hands down, one of my top two favorite concepts in comicdom. I love the idea of this sect of the government working for decades on end to create new and innovative ways to eradicate the mutant species. With heavy connections on all sides. I mean, Captain America and Wolverine are part of the same series of projects. Two super-soldiers of a sort, in similar circumstances, with a shared history... when you put that into the context of the Weapon Plus project, it all fits. It all connects. As stated, I adore that. :p |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 23 2009, 04:34 PM Post #18 |
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And I will agree on the surface the concept is sound and even interesting. When I first saw that Weapon X was Ten I was like 'That's an interesting idea, I wonder how they'll explain the other Weapon X's'. And the idea that things were all connected as a good idea too. Then I read it and well you know how I feel from there. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 23 2009, 04:59 PM Post #19 |
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I do get what you are saying and I think it is funny.  To show I have a sense of humor check this out. It made me lol. 
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