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| X-Men vs The Avengers (1987) #1-4; The first big battle against each other? | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 13 2009, 09:06 PM (962 Views) | |
| Gabriel Zero | Jun 13 2009, 09:06 PM Post #1 |
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This is 1987's X-Men vs The Avengers. Anyone read this old bad boy? I still need to track down my own copy. Is it really good? Bad? mediocre? Is this the first time this team fought head to head? 
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| Templedog | Jun 14 2009, 02:21 AM Post #2 |
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I have the trade. The interaction between Captain America and Magneto at the climax of the story is great. It is a comment on Captain America's character that is fantastic.
Edited by Templedog, Jun 17 2009, 06:33 AM.
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| Congo Jack | Jun 14 2009, 08:58 AM Post #3 |
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Is that the one that Roger Stern/Marc Silvestri worked on but Stern wasn't allowed to use his ending for and it was rewrote? EDIT: Clearly it was, I didn't notice the link in Gabe's post. Edited by Congo Jack, Jun 14 2009, 09:00 AM.
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 14 2009, 04:38 PM Post #4 |
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What was the original ending? Please let me know what you are talking about. =( |
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| Congo Jack | Jun 14 2009, 04:51 PM Post #5 |
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I haven't read the mini so I don't know what was different. I was going to get it but after I learned of Stern's story being changed I was no longer interested. I do know that his intent was to fully reveal and restore Magneto to true bad guy status. A move which I completely agree with by the way... I dislike Claremont's 'hero on way to redemption' characterisation of Magneto. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 14 2009, 08:53 PM Post #6 |
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Didn't that version of Magneto end up being a clone or something like that? I don't remember how Mags turned evil again. |
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| Congo Jack | Jun 15 2009, 08:43 AM Post #7 |
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Not the Magneto that Claremont wrote. He was (in continuity, if not personality) the same Magneto that debuted in 1963’s X-MEN #1. There was a de-aged Magneto clone called Joseph created by Scott Lobdell a few years later though. ‘Fatal Attractions’ was the big return of evil Magneto following his “death” IIRC. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 15 2009, 09:03 AM Post #8 |
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Ah. So what happened to the good Magneto to turn him evil again? |
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| Congo Jack | Jun 15 2009, 09:34 AM Post #9 |
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It just didn't work. Magneto was the X-Men's number one bad guy, no matter what a writer does, that's the status quo he will eventually return too. |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 15 2009, 09:41 AM Post #10 |
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Basically good Magneto started to turn back after the death of Doug Ramsey. He was left in charge of the kids and felt he failed miserably. He started hanging around the Hellfire club more as the white king. During in Inferno the kids drifted away with X-Factor and Magneto really started going back to his more violent ways. It was a gradual but definite slide. |
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