| Astonishing X-men #30; June 24, 2009 | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 12 2009, 12:25 PM (1,475 Views) | |
| Gabriel Zero | Jun 12 2009, 12:25 PM Post #1 |
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Link: http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=12074 Wow. are they really releasing one issue every two months? It sure feels that way to me. Anyone care about this story? |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 12 2009, 12:44 PM Post #2 |
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It's actually going to be more like three months or more between issues next. There is not one scheduled through August. The story is ok but nothing special and certainly doesn't seem worth the multi-month wait for me. But who knows maybe it will end up interesting. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 12 2009, 07:30 PM Post #3 |
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Why are they acting that way with Forge? I know Forge was a little shady during the whole Fall of the Mutants saga. But he was never bad either right? |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 13 2009, 09:58 AM Post #4 |
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He killed the entire X-Men team on TV once because the Adversary was loosed by a spell he cast using the souls of his dead Vietnam squad. So I can see a bit of squeamishness in general. Plus he's been acting a bit odd since Bishop broke in and stole his tech. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 13 2009, 10:42 AM Post #5 |
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Well to be fair, the team volunteered to help him kill the Adversary and assist Forge. If they didn't it's quite possible the Adversary would of killed everyone in NY. Also Forge was trained from birth to combat him, I'm certain at least Logan and Storm remember that much. Even if the Adversary had Storm believing that Forge was helping him for a little bit, I think she realized that it was a lie and he was really good. The Adversary was pretty damn powerful, he sought to destroy and to remake the universe and did not care how many billions upon billions of sentient beings would die in the process. The X-Men willingly agreed to sacrifice their lives so that Forge could cast the spell needed to close the Great Gate and defeat the Adversary. In casting the spell Forge transformed the X-Men into beings of pure energy, which Forge gathered together and hurled at the Adversary, forcing him through a mystical portal which sealed shut behind him. According to Forge, the deaths of the X-Men had assured that the Adversary would be sealed away for all time. Is it true he beat up Storm though? The last issue alluded that he was a wife abuser.  Do you remember Roma, Lady of the Northern Skies? She is suppose to be the daughter of Merlyn and guardian and caretaker of the known dimensions. I remember she showed her thanks to the X-Men by resurrecting them and making them invisible to cameras. Electronics and video cameras didn't register their appearance, so for awhile Logan was completely invisible to technology. I wonder what happened to take away that power. Roma possesses the ability to use both magic and highly advanced science to do virtually anything she desires. |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 13 2009, 12:37 PM Post #6 |
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It was Dallas actually not NY just FYI. And the only reason the Adversary was loose in the first place was because Forge set him loose to slaughter the Viet-cong. Not exactly a noble reason to misuse your mystic powers. Yes the X-Men volunteered but it was Forge that put them in the position in the first place. I don't remember Forge ever hitting Storm per se he did take away her powers with one of his inventions though a neutrilizer. She stayed bitter about that for a while. And yes the bit about being invisible to electronics just got dropped and forgotten. |
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 13 2009, 12:45 PM Post #7 |
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Oh sorry. I didn't mean to make it sound like he was noble, I am actually asking questions to find out how much of a good guy Forge is. I do remember now that he unleashed demons during Vietnam because his entire platoon was destroyed. I didn't know that was how the Adversary escaped to earth though. I may be sick for being sympathetic, but I feel that he only used that dark magic to survive not getting killed by enemy fire. Given the circumstances and the amount of times they helped their own teammates out of similar situations. It just strikes me odd that they would hold a grudge against Forge for what happened with the Adversary. I just don't believe that the current conversation in Astonishing is related to the Fall of the Mutants saga. Thanks for reminding me about Dallas, I always seem to forget that. 
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| jrpbsp | Jun 13 2009, 12:49 PM Post #8 |
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Well he was safe enough when he worked the spell I believe it was purely for revenge. And he consumed the essences of his friends to to it then called in an airstrike to cover the carnage when he realized his mistake. That is why the X-Men had to sacrifice themselves, spirits freely given to counter the ones he had stolen in the original spell. As for Forge in general he has made enough mistakes and done enough questionable things that I can see them being wary of him. In particular though I believe the current issues is for the Bishop/time travel fiasco. Edited by jrpbsp, Jun 13 2009, 12:50 PM.
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| Gabriel Zero | Jun 13 2009, 01:00 PM Post #9 |
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Thanks for clearing that up for me, it has been awhile since I've familiarized myself with his backstory. Again though. Why would they blame him for what happened with Bishop? I was under the impression that Bishop blindsided him and stole his equipment. |
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| jrpbsp | Jun 15 2009, 09:32 AM Post #10 |
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Yes but why is he making all this dangerous time traveling equipment in the first place? There is a reason enough to be leery of him. |
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