FANTASTIC FOUR #566 - Old Man Logan tie In?

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FANTASTIC FOUR #566 - Old Man Logan tie In?; May 20, 2009
Topic Started: May 15 2009, 03:51 AM (1,411 Views)
Gabriel Zero	May 15 2009, 03:51 AM Post #1
Administrator Posts: 2,837 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: January 24, 2009	Link: http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=11625 So is this the issue where we see the bad guy who is responsible for the post apocalyptic future of Old Man Logan? Quote: THE MASTERS OF DOOM Part one of four. It begins here! The final storyline of the Millar/Hitch run on FANTASTIC FOUR, culminating all of the plot threads they’ve set up so far! From across the universe they come, returning to the Earth after a twenty year journey of genocide and sadism. They’re the men who tutored Doctor Doom in the ways of villainy—and their re-emergence signals the greatest conflict the Fantastic Four have ever been party to!



Brian Knippenberg	May 15 2009, 09:05 AM Post #2
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	From Here: http://comics.ign.com/articles/949/949454p2.html Millar: So here's how they tie in. 1985 is the origin of Clyde Wyncham. And Clyde is the guy who grows up to be the greatest super-villain of all time far into the future. He is back in the Master of Doom storyline in Fantastic Four. What he's done is he's become the master of all space and time and co-exists from the end of the universe to the beginning through multiple dimensions and so on. He's just the biggest badass, you know? So you have his earliest, embryonic state in 1985 and it kind of explains who he is. So tell sell this in the most cynical way, 1985 is the origin of Dr. Doom's teacher as well as being a nice, little Stephen King superhero story, you know? And Wolverine: Old Man Logan ties into this because, without spoiling the end of 1985, the place where Clyde Wyncham is put at the end of 1985 is broken into in Old Man Logan. For people who've read the story, they know it's about the supervillains all getting together and wiping out the superheroes. So they open all the prisons and they discover this secret prison called "Clyde's Pit" which is where the worst supervillains are kept – the guys we've never heard about. And Clyde is the most dangerous supervillain of all, and he's freed in Old Man Logan. This is referred to in Fantastic Four. So the whole thing is this big, intricate web. Each thing is self-contained but hopefully they make a cool, big story. It's my own little event. After Civil War I kind of wanted to do a one-man event.



Ace	May 15 2009, 04:11 PM Post #3
Samurai Posts: 1,092 Group: Members Member #54 Joined: March 10, 2009	So that's how they connect. Millar had said from the get go that his Fantastic Four, Old Man Logan, and 1985 storyline were connected. I was scratching my brain as to how. Interesting. There's also speculation that Logan/the Hooded Man from the future the Fantastic Four came into contact with no long ago is the same Logan from Old Man Logan several hundred years later.



Brian Knippenberg	May 15 2009, 04:34 PM Post #4
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	Ace May 15 2009, 04:11 PM So that's how they connect. Millar had said from the get go that his Fantastic Four, Old Man Logan, and 1985 storyline were connected. I was scratching my brain as to how. Interesting. There's also speculation that Logan/the Hooded Man from the future the Fantastic Four came into contact with no long ago is the same Logan from Old Man Logan several hundred years later. I believe that Millar and Fantastic Force writer Joe Aherne have both stated that the Hooded Man is indeed "Old Man Logan". Edited by Brian Knippenberg, May 15 2009, 04:36 PM.



Ace	May 15 2009, 04:38 PM Post #5
Samurai Posts: 1,092 Group: Members Member #54 Joined: March 10, 2009	Ah, excellent, the connections continue.



Brian Knippenberg	May 15 2009, 04:44 PM Post #6
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	Ace May 15 2009, 04:38 PM Ah, excellent, the connections continue. I could also almost swear I read somewhere from Millar that he was even loosely tying in his other book "Kick-Ass", by indicating that the two main characters (Dave from Kick-Ass and Toby from 1985, respectively) were meant to be cousins, or some-such. I cannot find the source at the moment.



Ace	May 15 2009, 04:46 PM Post #7
Samurai Posts: 1,092 Group: Members Member #54 Joined: March 10, 2009	Brian Knippenberg May 15 2009, 04:44 PM Ace May 15 2009, 04:38 PM Ah, excellent, the connections continue. I could also almost swear I read somewhere from Millar that he was even loosely tying in his other book "Kick-Ass", by indicating that the two main characters (Dave from Kick-Ass and Toby from 1985, respectively) were meant to be cousins, or some-such. I cannot find the source at the moment. I seem to recall him mentioning Kick-Ass as well. Or at the very least a 4th book. The only one that makes sense being Kick-Ass.



Gabriel Zero	May 21 2009, 04:52 AM Post #8
Administrator Posts: 2,837 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: January 24, 2009	ZOMG ! Dead Watcher on the Beach!!!1111111 That was a mind blowing issue if I don't say so myself. Holy freaking cow. Miller sure knows how to leave a lasting impression doesn't he? Totally worth the wait.



Gorvar	May 21 2009, 06:41 AM Post #9
Self claimed fanfic critic. Posts: 4,067 Group: Members Member #38 Joined: February 8, 2009	Spoil me nao!



Gabriel Zero	May 21 2009, 06:57 AM Post #10
Administrator Posts: 2,837 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: January 24, 2009	Spoiler: click to toggle Well Doctor Doom gets incinerated by his masters. He asks them if he has made them proud. And they are like "Bitch, how many times has the Fantastic Four beat you? Come here and let us bitch slap you!" It was really bad ass and I wonder how they are going to keep everyone alive with these powerhouses in play.



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