'Wolverine Saga': Unknown Wolverine Appearances

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'Wolverine Saga': Unknown Wolverine Appearances
Topic Started: Mar 28 2009, 12:25 PM (966 Views)
DiG	Mar 28 2009, 12:25 PM Post #1
Secret Agent Posts: 610 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: January 24, 2009	From my Wolverine Saga post... Quote: Unknown Wolverine Appearances: One of the biggest treats for me was that there were mentions of several appearances that I had been blissfully unaware of. Please, please help me discover what issues they took place in…. * Not sure when Logan smuggled bootleg alcohol and met Jim Beam. Anyone remember? * Where specifically is it mentioned that Logan worked with Doop during the Cold War? * When did Logan cross paths with Arnim Zola (before joining the X-Men)? * And where is the reference to Logan serving with Xavier in Asia (probably Korea)? Help!



Gabriel Zero	Mar 28 2009, 12:40 PM Post #2
Administrator Posts: 2,837 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: January 24, 2009	Awesome. I was unaware that they mentioned appearances that you didn't know about. I heard of Logan serving with Xavier before, I wish I remember which site I spotted that information on.



Brian Knippenberg	Mar 28 2009, 12:58 PM Post #3
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	For the Wolverine/Doop Cold War reference, I would imagine it was mentioned in the Wolverine/Doop 2-issue mini-series by Peter Milligan and Darwyn Cooke. It's been a year or so since I last read it, so I'm not 100% positive.



Brian Knippenberg	Mar 28 2009, 01:20 PM Post #4
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	The Logan/Xavier Korean War reference was apparently Excalibur Vol 2 # 14 http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2795 Then I found this... http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18354 3) In “Wolverine: Origins” #28, we see Wolverine meeting Professor X for the first time…except they had already met before in the Korean War, right? Was Xavier just pretending not to know Logan? And does this mean the Weapon X experiments took place between the Korean War and Logan joining the X-Men? Daniel Way: Wolverine wouldn’t have remembered that he met Professor X in Korea, due to the repeated and systematic brainwashings that he endured. John Barber: Professor X lives his life not only seeing people, hearing them — maybe smelling them — but more importantly, he “thinks” them. He feels their thoughts and their minds, whenever he’s nearby. That’s as much a part of who somebody is to him as the way they look. When Professor X met Wolverine at Department H in “Giant Size X-Men” #1 (and as retold in “Wolverine: Origins” #28), Logan’s mind had been manipulated so much — folded, spindled, mutilated — that he bore no resemblance to the man the Prof met in Korea. It wouldn’t have occurred to him that this was the same guy, any more that if you saw somebody that you hadn’t seen for thirty years and they looked completely different, and you’re in a totally different context, it wouldn’t occur to you that this was the same guy. Plus, Logan was wearing a mask. Once the Prof started poking around Logan’s mind, I’m sure he figured things out. DW: If anything, Professor X knows more about Logan than Logan does. And yes, the Weapon X series of experiments conducted on Wolverine took place sometime between the mid- to late-fifties and the late sixties, “Marvel time.” JB: But the experiments where he got the Adamantium happened after the Korean War. Edited by Brian Knippenberg, Mar 28 2009, 01:20 PM.



Gabriel Zero	Mar 28 2009, 02:23 PM Post #5
Administrator Posts: 2,837 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: January 24, 2009	Awesome. Thanks for explaining that.



DiG	Mar 28 2009, 02:24 PM Post #6
Secret Agent Posts: 610 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: January 24, 2009	Quote: The Logan/Xavier Korean War reference was apparently Excalibur Vol 2 # 14 http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2795 Found it online here: http://www.marvel.com/digitalcomics/titles/Excalibur.2004.14 Does anyone know if Logan's appearance spanned more than the first four pages? Thanks! DiG...



DiG	Mar 28 2009, 02:25 PM Post #7
Secret Agent Posts: 610 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: January 24, 2009	Quote: For the Wolverine/Doop Cold War reference, I would imagine it was mentioned in the Wolverine/Doop 2-issue mini-series by Peter Milligan and Darwyn Cooke. It's been a year or so since I last read it, so I'm not 100% positive. Unless I'm missing something, I didn't see any reference during my reread.



Brian Knippenberg	Mar 28 2009, 03:23 PM Post #8
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	DiG Mar 28 2009, 02:25 PM Quote: For the Wolverine/Doop Cold War reference, I would imagine it was mentioned in the Wolverine/Doop 2-issue mini-series by Peter Milligan and Darwyn Cooke. It's been a year or so since I last read it, so I'm not 100% positive. Unless I'm missing something, I didn't see any reference during my reread. With the Wolverine/Doop meeting, there may be no *direct* reference to find, possibly. I'll defer to others who have read X-Statix (I only own the Wolverine/Doop mini) and know Doop's history better, but I believe it's always been insinuated that Logan and Doop had known each other for a long time and the Wolverine Saga issue says... "Briefly returning to Vietnam, he worked with U.S. soldier Blaine, and it was *perhaps* during these years Wolverine befriended Doop, a bizarre Cold War construct..." Edited by Brian Knippenberg, Mar 28 2009, 03:28 PM.



Brian Knippenberg	Mar 28 2009, 03:41 PM Post #9
Secret Agent Posts: 780 Group: Members Member #55 Joined: March 13, 2009	With the Logan/Jim Beam meeting...could it be from Wolverine (Vol 3 #12)? He tells Rogue in a dream how he used to run alcohol from Canada to the the States. http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldauto=1695



DiG	Mar 28 2009, 04:25 PM Post #10
Secret Agent Posts: 610 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: January 24, 2009	Quote: "Briefly returning to Vietnam, he worked with U.S. soldier Blaine, and it was perhaps during these years Wolverine befriended Doop, a bizarre Cold War construct..." Ah! So I probably haven't missed some specific reference. Good!



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